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Max Pete and I had a nice talk about chasing tech dreams, the rise (or comeback?) of offline community, and how creatives can find balance between being seen online and actually living their lives.
Some solid quotes from Max during this talk:
“The tech dream is a nightmare… more people I talk to that are in this industry want to leave and do something else—like work at the coffee shop, work at Trader Joe’s—but don’t know how to do that or feel like they can’t.”
“As a community professional, we often put ourselves on the back burner… it leads to burnout. My next talk will be about how to take care of yourself while taking care of others.”
It’s okay to be forgotten and not know everything or everyone. You don’t need to be famous or popular or known by everyone to do good work.
I got to talk with Frederick Woodruff (Woodruff, The Dahmer Diaries, and Fame Whores) about how he started working on the web, running his popular Woodruff astrology newsletter, writing a book, his podcast, and so much more. Enjoy!
I got to chat with Matty C about his upcoming crowdfunding campaign for his live album and film project. It’s quote an endeavor, and there’s lots of risk involved, but hey – what else are we here to do?!
“You’re investing in something bigger than a physical thing. You’re investing in an idea, a concept,” which is how Matt explains this crowdfunding campaign.
That people who contribute are supporting the underlying idea and story behind the project, rather than just getting “things” in exchange for a few bucks.
We also get into Substack’s Nazi problem, which never seems to go away.
Had another chat with Angela Hollowell (Please Hustle Responsibly) all about the benefits of spending our time away from social media, content ownership, and lots more.
Angela talking about spending your time wisely:
(more…)“I could be on social media, making a big deal that I’m going to be here and doing all these things. Or I could just let the people who want to be on social media stay there, and focus instead on the relationships that matter — the ones that aren’t dependent on social media.”
Angela Hollowell (Please Hustle Responsibly) and I talk about stepping back from algorithm-driven platforms like LinkedIn and Instagram to build slower, calmer, more sustainable creative practices.
Angela on her reason to spend less time on LinkedIn:
“I’m not tempted to leave LinkedIn because my LinkedIn reach has gone down. I’m tempted to leave LinkedIn and posting on any social media platform regularly because of the time that it takes for me to do that when I could be spending more time writing a better long-form article
Me on websites:
“I think curation is the big part of of like you came to my website and this is someone asked me like oh well why doesn’t my website my website doesn’t get the same engagement as as say a LinkedIn. Well yeah cuz LinkedIn is built for engagement. There’s all these things to click and do and this whereas your most websites are just like here’s a big picture here’s eight links here. What do you want me to engage with?”
Angela on doing the work, rather than writing everyday on LinkedIn:
“The thing I’m most known for now, and where I’m getting a lot more recognition as a writer, producer, and film director—is from (my documentary). Way more than I did in four years of writing every day on social media. Yeah, that project took me six months to make, and then another year basically doing a film festival circuit. But it has paid off exponentially. I try to remind myself of that when I start thinking, “Oh, I should post this on LinkedIn.” It’s like—no, I shouldn’t, actually. I should let it cook.
And this is me, talking about spending less time on social media, and seeing where that can lead:
“I started doing my my weekly Zoom calls with my paid members like a year and a half ago and let me say, when I started them I was scared out of my mind. Like, “who who am I to like host Zoom calls?” Now I get like 10 to 15 people. I had six or seven this morning at the last minute. It’s amazing. But like, that work and not being on social media and doing that kind of quiet ,behind the scenes thing… now I’m ready for whatever.”
I hope you get something from this chat! If you have questions, please get in touch: seth@socialmediaescape.club
Recorded live on Substack, July 28 2025.

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