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In today’s Mini Escape Pod Zoom call, a member was talking about leading virtual co-working sessions. They had a sales page set up with their Square Space site, and (to avoid having to upgrade their Square Space plan) they linked out to Gumroad for payments.
They had an email list of 700 people, which is a great place to start! I suggested they also reach out to some people personally, too, since not everyone reads every newsletter, and it’s good to just directly invite people to things you’re starting (I did this initially with my Escape Pod Zoom calls back in 2023).
They brought up maybe paying for some classified ads. Spots that are relatively cheap via assorted email newsletters, and usually a good “customer fit” for this sort of thing.
The only thing I cautioned was to figure out their own invite / newsletter flow first.
Figure out how to get a few people to go through their paid process first. Get a few customers into the flow first, and make sure things are moving smoothly before injecting any paid traffic into the system.
The last thing you want to do is spend money on a “leaky” sales process.
UPDATE 8/14/2025: Just wanna stress that there’s a lot of talk about funnels, and paid ads, and “driving traffic” on the internet, especially wrapped about making sales. That’s sort of what I’m talking about, but at a much slower level. We don’t need to “drive” 1,000 people to our sales pages right away. Heck, if we get 10 people to click over, that’s great. And that’s what I’m talking about here. Get 10 people to your sales page. Maybe two sign up. Hey, that’s a 20% conversion rate, and in internet terms, that’s good. Sure, you’ll learn more from 100 people to visit, but start with 10. Be content with learning on a monthly schedule, not an hourly one.
Had another chat with Angela Hollowell (Please Hustle Responsibly) all about the benefits of spending our time away from social media, content ownership, and lots more.
Angela talking about spending your time wisely:
(more…)“I could be on social media, making a big deal that I’m going to be here and doing all these things. Or I could just let the people who want to be on social media stay there, and focus instead on the relationships that matter — the ones that aren’t dependent on social media.”
Never forget that corporate vultures swooped in and wrecked blog culture with their SEO posts and 13 display ads, and said “wow, blogs suck now!”
Then those crooks rolled out their shiny social media platforms – “wow, so clean! Who even needs a website?!? LOL!”
Now everyone’s ideas and posts were readable, without pop ups or takeover ads. It was bliss!
But the pivot to video (which was based on a lie) got writers fired. Sites shuttered because social media sites throttled links.
We’re learning everyday that maybe centralized kingdoms of power maybe aren’t great.
The decentralized internet is already here in the form of domain names, websites, email lists, and RSS feeds. We don’t need to wait for anyone, we can just decide today where we spend out time and energy.
I’m a big fan of one-page websites, and How To Leave Substack is one such site.
We’re discovering more and more that centralized kingdoms of power are not the answer. Especially when such a platform has no back ups of your work when you inadvertently delete something, or when they send a push notification with a fucking swastika, or goes quiet while a known Substack Bestseller is accused of plagiarism.
I understand the “Asking Authors To Move” section of the How To Leave Substack website. But trust me, moving ain’t easy, as Tara McMullin wrote about this back in “Substack Has a Nazi Problem” era (Nov 2023),
“There’s the work that goes directly into making a move—researching the options, exporting and importing old content, learning how to use the platform, designing your profile or site, moving your audience, etc. There’s also the work that goes into establishing yourself within the network of a new platform, answering questions from your audience about the new platform, and figuring out what kind of content is going to work best on this new platform.”
It took me a solid month or two just to export my paid members to Memberful. I was afraid I’d break something, that some setting would be left un-checked and I’d double charge my members. Or have to refund everyone.
Working with Substack, turns out, is precarious.
There’s a lot of people who probably want to move, but many don’t even know what the options are at. But trust me, I’m telling lots of current Substack authors that they can move their paid members to Memberful.
Looking to move your paid subscribers off of Substack? I’ve moved mine to Memberful.
Got questions? Book a 1:1 call here, or explore my Email Guidance offering.Angela Hollowell (Please Hustle Responsibly) and I talk about stepping back from algorithm-driven platforms like LinkedIn and Instagram to build slower, calmer, more sustainable creative practices.
Angela on her reason to spend less time on LinkedIn:
“I’m not tempted to leave LinkedIn because my LinkedIn reach has gone down. I’m tempted to leave LinkedIn and posting on any social media platform regularly because of the time that it takes for me to do that when I could be spending more time writing a better long-form article
Me on websites:
“I think curation is the big part of of like you came to my website and this is someone asked me like oh well why doesn’t my website my website doesn’t get the same engagement as as say a LinkedIn. Well yeah cuz LinkedIn is built for engagement. There’s all these things to click and do and this whereas your most websites are just like here’s a big picture here’s eight links here. What do you want me to engage with?”
Angela on doing the work, rather than writing everyday on LinkedIn:
“The thing I’m most known for now, and where I’m getting a lot more recognition as a writer, producer, and film director—is from (my documentary). Way more than I did in four years of writing every day on social media. Yeah, that project took me six months to make, and then another year basically doing a film festival circuit. But it has paid off exponentially. I try to remind myself of that when I start thinking, “Oh, I should post this on LinkedIn.” It’s like—no, I shouldn’t, actually. I should let it cook.
And this is me, talking about spending less time on social media, and seeing where that can lead:
“I started doing my my weekly Zoom calls with my paid members like a year and a half ago and let me say, when I started them I was scared out of my mind. Like, “who who am I to like host Zoom calls?” Now I get like 10 to 15 people. I had six or seven this morning at the last minute. It’s amazing. But like, that work and not being on social media and doing that kind of quiet ,behind the scenes thing… now I’m ready for whatever.”
I hope you get something from this chat! If you have questions, please get in touch: seth@socialmediaescape.club
Recorded live on Substack, July 28 2025.

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